Mayor Spear Wants Obama to Pay Up
Portsmouth Mayor Eric Spear says President Obama's visit to Strawbery Banke Museum on Sept. 7 cost city more than $30,000 in police, fire and public works costs.
PORTSMOUTH, NH -- Mayor Eric Spear knows how much it costs the city to accommodate President Barack Obama's visit on Sept. 7. to a local museum, and now he wants to see the city reimbursed.
According to a letter that Spear wrote to U.S. Sens. Kelly Ayotte, R-NH, Jeanne Shaheen, D-NH, and U.S. Rep.-elect Carol Shea Porter, D-NH, on Nov. 27., the President's visit to Strawbery Banke Museum cost $30,003.24. He asked them to file legislation to make have the federal government reimburse communities for the costs related to a visit by a sitting President. Spear's letter was included in the City Council's meeting packet that is posted on the city's web site.
"While it is an honor to have the president in our communities during the election cycle, or outside of it, the costs for additional security and related expenses for these unanticipated events can severely strain municipal budgets. If the presidential campaigns or the White House do not reimburse the communities, taxpayers are forced to pay the bill," Spear wrote.
The City Council actually voted, 5-4, to bill President Obama and former Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney for any costs associated with their campaign visits.
During Monday night's council meeting, Spear said he wanted to refine his letter and make it clear that the city is seeking reimbursement for presidential campaign events after City Councilor Chris Dwyer raised that point.
This issue was the subject of fierce debate in Durham when the President visited that community in June as well as Windham and Rochester.
Durham town officials insisted the White House pick up the tab. Windham town officials and Rochester Mayor TJ Jean said the city would not bill the President for his visit on Aug. 18.
Timothy Harden
10:26 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Maybe the Local Democrats should chip in.
Johnnie Moorhead
11:35 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
SEND the bill to the Democratic party!!!
fairfield newcomer
12:01 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Has Romney paid up?
Joe
10:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Come to think of it....yes in deed Romney has paid up...in fact he paid more in his own personal income taxes this year alone than you and all of your family all the way out to third cousins removed, will ever pay in your collective lifetimes
John
10:16 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Still not enough! Raise the rate on capital gains, dividends, inheritance..... it's income, tax it like income.
Joe
10:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Why John...do you even understand the concept of "capital gains?...Its money put at substantial risk of total loss or diminution in value all to invest in the economy to start or expand businesses which in turn create jobs which in turn bring in tax revenues to the coffers by way of income tax taken from the new wage earners who then support themselves...and there is additional tax on the the goods and services sold as well as taxes on the corporate profits...so keeping capital gains tax low, brings more money into the government than higher capital gains taxes...and as far as inheretence tax is concerned, the money or assets transfered upon death have already been taxed many times over. How many more time times do you want to tax somes hard earned money. You should like you are a very greedy and selfish person who has class envy and are willing to wage class warfare but without any ammunition to support your cause. How said...Thou shall not covet.
Joe
10:30 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Raise capital gains tax and the people with the money to invest will go invest elsewhere...its a global market...consider what happened when labor unions priced themselves out of the labor market...they wanted so much in wages and benefits that it was cheaper to make products in China and have them shipped half the way around the world to our markets, resulting in the loss of jobs...and now John plans to do the same with increased capital gains taxes...brother...haven't you had enough of this OWS mentality
joel
11:41 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
they both will pay since iot is a business expense most of it will be written off if not all so what's the point .
Mike Barnett
12:29 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Give John a minute, Joe. He's trying to figure out how to use the dictionary.
N/A
8:43 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Joe, your not even close to the meaning of "capital gains" maybe before you give anyone instructions on what falls under the category of "Capital Gains" you should learn to not only read a dictionary yourself but actually understand tax code.
As far as Romney paying his share of taxes, this dead horse has been beaten many many times. 4 million more voters in November stated clearly that just because Romney paid more money in taxes does not mean he paid his fair share. My tax rate was 22% last year I certainly did not make near what Romney made he claims he paid 14% his tax returns show with his write offs he paid less then 1%. Which do you believe the liar or the tax return he filed? Personally I believe the filed return. Also lets get something clear real fast NOBODY making less then a million a year can afford to personally hire anyone to do anything. They may hire an employee of a business they run but they wont use their personal income.
Romney is a multi-billionaire who cost this country 45,000 jobs last year by lining his pockets with Bain Capitol take overs. His income did not create jobs it cost us jobs. The voters understood that and voted. You can agree or disagree, but the facts are 4 million more people and over 100 more delegates believed this president that the riches tax credits need to expire. If that income only runs thew government 8 days, it's 8 less day that we have to find a way to pay for. Even the Lost boys Boehner and Cantor got that message.
CE SWEETON
12:41 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Joe: If a Single Income Earner earns $100,000 and pays 28% towards Taxes / and a Multi-Millionaire earns Tens of Millions - but thru Loopholes pays way below 28% towards Taxes - then the two are not being Taxed Equally and the Effective Result is that the person who earned $100,000 paid more of their Income towards Taxes.
Now multiple the number of Income Earners paying at 28%, 25%, 15%, and 10% by ""98% of All Income Earners"" and the ""MATH"" will show that the vast majority us pay the majority of all Taxes collected in this Country ""while the 2% who can afford to hire Tax Advisors, have Off-shore Accounts, or pay Lobbyists to Influence Gov towards their Favor"" pay far less...
So it doesn't matter if Romney paid $1MM in Taxes and I paid $28,000 in Taxes - if I paid 28% and he paid 13% then I paid MORE - GET IT!!!
Joe
5:01 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
@CE SWEETON - You are wrong. It is the top 1% of earners that pay the lions share of the taxes!
"Yet the data show the highest-earning families and businesses already pay the lion’s share of the federal income tax burden. According to the IRS, the top 1 percent of income earners—those earning more than $380,000 in 2008—paid more than 38 percent of all federal income taxes while earning 20 percent of all income. The top 10 percent ($114,000 and above) earned 45 percent of income and paid 70 percent of all taxes. At the same time, the bottom 50 percent of income earners—those earning less than $33,000—earned 13 percent of all income and paid less than 3 percent of federal income taxes." From "The Foundry", http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/04/in-pictures-how-much-the-top-earners-already-pay-in-taxes/
CE SWEETON
12:00 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Joe:
If Family A earns $106,799 and pays 28% to the IRS - they're left w/ 72% of Earned Income.
If Family B earns $10,000,000 and pays 13% (thru Loopholes) to the IRS - they're left w/ 87% of Earned Income.
Q: Do you agree that to have 87% of your Income available is far better than having 72% of your Income available???
By your rationale the "single person" who Earns the Most in this Country could say to everybody else (including every other Billionaire and Millionaire) - you guys are all Takers because I paid the Most Taxes and you guys all paid less than that amount. There would be only one "Non-Taker"!!!
That's why you can't base who's paying the most on the Amount of Dollars paid to the IRS - it can only be judged fairly on Percent of Dollars Earned.
Kim T
12:12 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
"Strawbery Banke Museum President Lawrence Yerdon had a feeling they would benefit from President Obama's visit on Sept. 7, but they couldn't imagine it would translate into more than $2.8 million worth of earned media value.."
http://portsmouth-nh.patch.com/articles/strawbery-banke-keeps-on-reaping-benefits-of-obama-visit
jimmy y
10:18 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Sounds like someone owes the Prez $2 million 770,000 refund. O Yeh.....
Fred Mertz
12:25 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
You need not worry for another 4 years. Your state returns to irrelevance til then. Its sad when your existence is only on government handouts, a ground hog, and an early primary
Bonnercp
12:27 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Since when does a damn sitting president foot the bill to any state for coming to town!!!! Thease people are a bunch of crazies????? I am curious to know how many other presidents have visited and how many where ask to pay for security!!! If that was the case why didnt y ou just sau to the Obama team you cant come cause our city is strapped for cash!!!!??? Bunch of idiots!!!
Janie
9:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
When he's campaigning! Sitting Presidents who are performing Presidential duties do not pay, but Presidents who are campaigning for re-election have campaign budgets/money that is supposed to pay for costs to campaign in a city; Romney paid his campaign bills/costs, why should Obama be any different?
Gary L
9:42 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Odumbo should pay or his party! Ditto for here in Colorado, why should we tax payers have to foot the bill for his or any politicians re-election!
Thoman A Johnson
9:56 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Agreed, these un-American SOB's. If the mayor had any business sense he would have leveraged the event to make money for the city as a whole, but instead he's playing politics. Now that we all know lets take NH out of the early presidential consideration pageant, since they can't afford this kind of stuff. Send their first primary to NJ or NY they are better choices anyway.
Proud Conservative
10:03 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Sorry there, chap, but the Campaigner-in-chief was here as a presidential candidate. It was not an official presidential visit.
c
11:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Bonnercp, very well said! What other sitting President's have been asked to do the same????? Give me a break! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the "real" reason is............!
tim Duchaine
7:21 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
the're not idiot's the're just broke. I'm sure he could cough up a little cash from his $4,000.000 Christmas vacation fund
Elaine Gough
1:36 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
A left over RACIST???
Walter Izmir
3:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Anybody that questions or has a different opinion of Obama is a Racist!Check yourself.
Joe
10:38 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Elaine....its people like you who set racial relations and the stribes minorites have made, back 50 years with dumb comments like yours. When you run around suggesting that there is a racist under ever rock, you sound like chicken little...the sky is falling...the sky is falling..and soon, no one will listen to you, even if there just might be a real (black or white) racist in our midst. If I were black...which I am not, I would tell you to shut the h-e0-l-l up because you are making things worse...not better for minorities....oh wait Elaine...over there...a racist...go get him girl....ahahahahahahah
nellis
12:02 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Elaine,
You speak the truth!!!
dancingdelilah
1:02 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I am so tired of the race card being played! Get over it @Elaine Gough! Just because a person does not agree with another person of a different race does not make the person that disagrees a racist! It simply means that one human disagrees with another human! That "Race card" is way over played!!
BIG DADDY
9:17 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Its people like you, obama and his wife that are dividing this country. This country was with out a doubt getting so much better regarding black and white. As soon as obama got in things started changing for the worse. All I see on huffington post is comments how we want to lessen whitey! So its not the whites being racist its the blacks making the racist comments. Just because someone doesnt like Obama dosent make them racist it makes them SMART!
Brad Potter
1:36 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Obongo and Moochele are lifelong free loaders. As far as they're concerned, those little working class dummies can pay all their bills.
Atlant Schmidt
3:43 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
It's funny how, in one reply, folks are denying that many of the haters of President Obama are motivated by racism while in another, nearly-adjacent reply, someone uses the "cute" name "Obongo" to describe our President.
Quick!
We need another reply denying that many folks hate President Obama (in large part) because they are racists!
Sue
3:54 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
That is a repulsive statement. Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, have given back way more to their community than many others in the public eye. Your petty name calling takes away any credibility your statement might contain.
Neil Evansan
4:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Hey Bradley,
Did you know Paul Ryan has never held a meaningful job in his life? Well, he did "work" at McDonald's for a very short time, and he even drove the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile too! But those were just for pocket-change, because He and his Family started receiving SSI AND other Government "handouts" when he was 16, and his Mother still relies on assistance.
He's been on the government dole since age 16, yet wants to slice those same programs that benefited him and his family.
btw ..... who are "Obongo" and "Moochele"? Sounds like friends of yours?
Watts
4:13 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
@ Atlant, don't forget Moochele, which is a thinly veiled manipulation of Moolie, which is an old school racist term for African Americans.
But nobody is ever supposed to point out how much of the Republican base is racist, despite the fact that not a day goes by that some conservative poster is on some local Patch making statements like this.
Ready About
4:25 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Brad Potter is a plant and not from new hampshire.
Ready About
4:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Watts is a plant and not from new hampshire. probably the same person to create controversy. Would a left winger do that? YEP
Watts
4:51 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
So what you are saying is that anybody who has an original log-in page outside of New Hampshire is of the kingdom Plantae? If so, then I would prefer to be a Black Spruce, because I thrive at higher elevations.
I don't understand Ready About's game yet (or even that profile name), but I will play along.
Brenda
6:48 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Here in Springfield, IL, BEFORE he was president but in campaign mode, he owed the city $30,000+ and has yet to pay us.....4 years later........and he keeps taking trips on us taxpayers....over 1 billion last year alone.......this guy has no conscience or honor
arthur woofenden
10:06 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Your ignorant misspelling tells me a lot about your simpleton attitude, my advice on this ill-conceived amateur attempt at humor is, "don't quit your day job"
Joe
10:48 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Never saw a liberal shy away from petty name calling...in fact they not only do more of it, they are far more vicious
Watts
11:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Joe, you have obviously never listened to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. Please provide anybody on the left that has this much air and audience share that spends as much time on such name calling.
c
11:16 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
So Brad, did you disrespect any other sitting President, by intentionally mispelling their names???? Probably not, if Obama and Michelle were white, would you have written the same comments?? I think not!!! By the way, a person who was President of the Harvard Law Review is far from being a dummy!!!
dancingdelilah
1:17 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
@Atlant~I'm denying that I am a racist.Tho I'm disappointed that Obama is president for a 2nd term. I happened to have voted for him the first time around. But I have since lost much faith in him as a leader of this country. This does not make me a racist at all. I think he is ruining our country that's all. I mean come on the Pres. Obama called Romney ~Romalony~ which I thought was funny, not racist!
Watts
2:36 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
@ dancingdelilah
OK, you have my interest. Please provide a link to where Obama referred to Romney as Romalony.
I love the name, but I can't picture that Obama actually said this and that I have no recollection of this.
Atlant Schmidt
8:18 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Watts:
"Ready About!" is a nautical command given to tell the crew of a sailing vessel that the ship is about to change tacks (change course). Clearly Ready About wants us to change tacks from aiming towards success to once again aiming towards failure.
Meanwhile, thanks for "Moolie"; I did not know that, but there it is:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moolie
Watts
12:27 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Moolie and moulignon (there are numerous way of spelling the latter) have been around for generations, mainly in Italian communities. I used to live near an Italian neighborhood in New Haven and that is where I heard it and later on I know that it has been used in many mafia movies, which is where Rush Limbaugh probably got it, as I think that he is the originator of the Moochelle hybrid of name and racist term.
D S
1:52 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Oh, sure, invite a guest to your home and then a few months later when you're hard up for change, send him a bill for the visit. What pleasant hospitality. Dear tourists: you're welcome to enjoy our fine city, but be advised that you will later be billed an undisclosed amount for whatever services you use.
ICanSeeClearlyNow
10:35 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Clearly you don't know your facts. When running for office you are responsible for your costs. Not the tax payer. He was backed by the democratic party which has funding specifically for this. He deserves to pay and you are a simpleton!
TB Player
1:57 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Get in Line. The Obama Campaign hasnt paid ONE CITY for Services rendered for Campaign stops. They never will. Another indication he has NO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
Buff
2:45 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
No sitting president ever has....wonder why you choose to treat this one differently????
Barb2
3:41 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
It's not in the budget.
Rachael
10:18 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
LOL! And you folks try to say its not racism. There have been 43 presidents before this man yet he is the only one that has been asked to personally pay for a visit to a city. What's next? Are you all going to demand that he pay first and last month rent on the White House? Along with a pet deposit!? What a bunch of idiots LOL!!
c
11:25 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
TB, well name all the cities that former President Bush paid for his stops.....NONE!!!
Get over it already, President Barrack Obama is the President of the UNITED STATES and there is nothing you can do about that fact!!!
Sunrise Farm
2:30 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Portsmouth, reminding us there is a cost to being black.
Walter Izmir
3:02 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Yes and we are all footing the bill.
mark wood
3:06 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
hope he screws you, like he screw us.. raise your taxes knucklehead, just like all Libs do, problem solved...
Neil Evansan
3:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
"Strawbery Banke Museum officials believe they have received more than $2.8 million worth of earned media value from the president's visit generated on Sept. 7."
~ Portsmouth Patch ~
Dear Mayor,
To whom should We the People present your bill for $2,769,996.75 in "Free Publicity"? Directly to you, the Town Treasurer or the City Council?
We'd also like to have your community open their books so we can evaluate the additional profits made that day, due to the extra business you raved about. That will of course be an extra bill we'll submit later, after all accounting is concluded and tallied.
Thank You and Happy Holidays,
We The People
miss_msry
4:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Sorry, the election is over, you are on your own.
Bill Martin
4:50 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
And of course, this town won't reap any of the benefits of the exposure the Museum got, in the form of increased tourism:
<http://portsmouth-nh.patch.com/articles/strawbery-banke-keeps-on-reaping-benefits-of-obama-visit>
Don't these politicians ever do due diligence before opening their yaps and spewing nonsense?
c
11:28 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Very well said Bill.
Timothy Harden
5:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Message from Obama:
Hurricane Sandy victims you are on your own. Portsmouth ditto.
Atlant Schmidt
8:22 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
President Obama, FEMA, and other Federal organizations have been working pretty damned hard to get the "Sandy" issues resolved. Perhaps if FEMA were better funded or our National Guard were not committed to Bush's foreign wars, we'd be in a better position to present an even-stronger response.
Pam Moore
9:24 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
@Atlant, didn't O campaign on the promise in '08n to END THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN??? hmmmmmm seems to me he's missed it by about 4 years!!! LOL. oh well, so much for that promise.
Atlant Schmidt
8:18 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Pam:
He's ended the US participation in one of Bush's wars and he's actively engaged in winding down our participation in Bush's other war.
It's easy to step into a pile of dog ****; it takes a lot longer to get it completely wiped off your shoe afterwards.
"Afghanistan; where empires go to die."
WestyTx
5:14 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
If you can ask for federal tax money reimbursements, then why can't all of Americans ask for our tax dollars back from building the George WMD Bush ranch homestead in Crawford Texas?
When the Supreme Court elected Bush president in 2001, he ran out and bought the raw ranch land with minimal housing. Then based on National Security and Secret Service needs, the tax payers paid for roads, power plants, water plants, fencing, roads, an air strip, and several houses. All left for the ex-president to enjoy without paying for it personally.
I bet it came to more than $30,000.
Pam Moore
9:26 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
let's add up what O and his darling wife have spent on their vacations for them, friends, family, since being elected in '08. bet it would scare the do-do outta ya to see what was spent. oh yea, don't forget to add $4,000,000 for THIS month's vacation! (all while people in staten island are STILL in shelters)
Ready About
5:59 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
@ Robert Cook, Patch editor
Would you please get rid of people from the other side of the country posting to Portsmouth. Watts and Potter add nothing to the conversion are are only posting to create problems.
Watts
11:12 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Typical conservative move. Desperately try anything to suppress opinions that challenge your own, just like the voter suppression efforts. Guess what genius, where somebody is "from" has nothing at all to do with their profile. Patch has been a recently evolving set of local sites where people register wherever they first post a comment. Just go to the basic Patch.com site and see how most of the country is not represented at all with local Patch sites. Do you think that nobody from all of that area of the country are members of Patch? Of course not, they have accounts set up wherever they first posted and there is nothing about this fact that should disallow anybody from participating in any public forum.
So you can keep whining like a child about how the intellectuals are spoiling your conservative tribal chest thumping fun, or you engage in debate like a normal adult. But you look weak with all of this crying about people playing with your toys.
D. Corleone
6:53 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Obama, show these folks you have more class; reimburse the $30,000 and next time bring your own security staff. Present and show these P.O.S. who is President...
I been to NH not something out of this world..You still see wrinkled old men walking naked with no class nor respect for society..
Leslie Grandstaff
7:14 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Why are you venting about whether the White House should payfor these expenses or not? You LIBERAL FOOLS voted for him, ONCE AGAIN! DO YOU NOT LEARN? He wants to trash the constitution of the United States...Why? Because it was written by WHITE ANGLO-SAXON CHRISTIAN MEN. He wants to do away with that population. Because they cling onto their religion and guns!!!!! I am a woman, and I want all white males (and I mean ALL) to have the balls to stand up and say FU!!!!!
John Quinn
7:57 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I just stood up and said FU - did you hear me? Can you tell me what parts of the constitution he has trashed. Did you know the majority of welfare recipients are white Anglo-Saxon males? --and they live in the RED states? Since Obama is a Christian and has not advocated changing any gun laws, you can continue to 'cling onto' your religion and guns.
Thomas Mills
8:55 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Leslie you sound like you have been too long without a real man. Go get layed and then tell us how you really feel.
Janie
9:16 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
John Quinn is blowing smoke out his whatever; I recently retired as a case manager for welfare and spent 3 out of 4 weeks the last nine years handling welfare fraud for the county Prosecutor. (last week each month helping office make deadline by handling applications, first three handling fraud cases) Only a minute portion of welfare recipients are white Anglo-Saxon males. The majority are women with children, then elderly people, then disabled persons, then two parent households, a tiny minority of which have white Anglo-Saxon fathers. The bulk of absent UNMARRIED fathers are not white, regardless of the color of the mothers.
jimmy y
10:36 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
What a load of crap coming from a crappy mouth, LADY????
c
11:34 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Like I said before, did Bush pay a city for any visits?..........NO! You can't stand the fact that an African American man is the President of the United States. I for one, am very happy about it! Geezzz and your very last sentence tells me you are truly crazy!!! Why not try to bring people together instead of spewing hatred Lesllie????
Bruce Farmer
7:19 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I'm from Portsmouth, in fact, I just visited there in Oct, What happened to all the "Common Sense Yankees" that used to hold sway there? How much money did local businesses reap in from a Presidential visit, Hmm?
jimmy y
10:38 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Bless you Bruce..
Leslie Grandstaff
7:27 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The "Common Sense Yankees" went the way of the dodo...extinct! Where is Thomas Payne and John Jay when you need them???
Beth Walker
8:06 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
hey obie pay up everybody else has 2!!!!!!!!
nellis
12:06 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Obie,
BEth, this shows the level of your intelligence.
Leslie Grandstaff
8:13 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Good for you John Quinn for standing up! But since you know that I am a female, would you be ripping me for my comments if I were a male? By the way, the majority of welfare recipients are not white anglo-saxon males (and we both know that). As to the parts of the constitution that the current administration is attacking...let"s begin with the "bill of rights" ...i.e. freedom of speech...what I like about Liberal democrats is they are your friend until you disagree with their political opinions, then you need to be censored and trashed as a demon. "right to bear arms"....well that is going to be non-existent by 2016. No one has proved that Obama is a Christian. And I am a white-anglo-saxon Catholic and a member of the NRA and I will cling to my religion and guns!!! Thank you!
John Quinn
8:34 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Of course I would say this if you were a male! Freedom of speech, has anyone stopped you from saying anything. If people do not agree with anyone, do not they also have the right to say so? That is freedom os speech. Still no one has shown any proof Obama is going to do anything to limit your right to own a gun. so any real trashing of the constitution you can point to?
I am a white-anglos-saxon Catholic male that owns a gun. So what.
Welfare recipients, you are right there, here is the new chart (blacks beat us out by 1%) -- The percentages those on welfare by race as of 2011 are listed below in descending order by percentage. Black-39.8%; White-38.8%; Hispanic-15.7%; Other-3.3%; Asian-2.4%
Janie
9:28 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
What John Quinn neglected to say was that out of every hundred welfare recipients, 39.8 are black and 38.8 are white and 15.7 are Hispanic but blacks only make up 14% of the population so the numbers are a joke unless you figure out the percentage ACCORDING to the percentage of the POPULATION. Blacks compose over 50% of prison populations yet make up only 14% of our population.
Rachael
10:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Show me proof that you are a Christian Leslie.
c
11:38 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Leslie, ever thought about taking anger management classes? Geezzzz, and a Catholic. Unbelievable.....!!!
Terry Munroe
8:38 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
You forgot Obama's kill list. Also the NDAA. Both of which are unconstitutional in my opinion.
joe bitchen
8:45 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
it will never happen obozo is a mooch like all his followers
c
11:40 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Who in the world is obozo? Joe are you related to Leslie???
Atlant Schmidt
8:26 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Chalk up another "Racist? Who, me????"
Joe, the gentleman's name is Barack Obama and his title is "President of the United States".
joebitchen
8:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
it will never happen obozo is a mooch like all his followers
Obscure323
9:32 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I'm not a mooch. I've never used government assistance aside from a federal school loan. I've served active duty military in Iraq and my wife has served in Afghanistan. Why is it that in the minds of many Republicans, people cannot make a conscious, well informed decision for themselves without being a moocher, wanting a black president, or being ignorant. Maybe I vote democrat because voting republican would only further to hurt the interests of the working class. You need to stop watching FAUX NEWS.
Thomas Mills
8:50 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Hey mayor, just deduct it from the federal money you will receive from the recent Sandy disaster. I know your state, and probably your town, has asked for federal money.
Ed Fouhl
8:54 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
To the Mayor - Your Honor...
As a former resident of my beloved Portsmouth, one who knows how seriously your town relies on tourism dollars... I'd like to know the positive economic impact figure that can reasonably be applied to the day the President visited Strawberry Banke, and the value of the national PR that SB enjoyed that day and today as this story goes around the world online.
The President's visit cost your city's residents approximately $1.43 each. I would guess that the vast majority of your citizens would find that a quite worthy investment. I know the downtown businesses, restaurants and hotels would.
Your rather astonishing lack of the most basic understanding of public relations and positive economic impact will, I hope and trust, be a topic of considerable discussion when you next run for office.
kenneth
9:43 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
finally! someone who has some common sense!
Special_Find
10:51 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Tell 'em Ed!!! I was thinking about how that visit created massive* income for some businesses (* massive = more than they've probably had in a while) and how Strawberry Banke probably could have NEVER bought the kind of exposure they received.
Thank you for being so intelligent to break it down for those who have trouble understanding!! I think the way it was explained, even most elementary students would be able to comprehend - maybe the Mayor and City Council will get a clue!
INDEPENDENT OBSERVER
9:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO ?
Panther One
9:53 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Why are so many of you on a march to destruction. For the US
Most of you have been lead to believe that some how that this man has in some way changed America, yes he did WIN: The office of the President (Legally)
I want to add and with out deception in anyway. Changed America not yet,
He’s still has a lot of work to do its not easy to turn a ship away from a reef with a broken rudder first you have to fix it and when you do you improve it so it holds Firm
Dave Fenner
12:33 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Trust me, this is a captain that has no clue how to run a ship. He's had 4 years to get something going, yet he's still on the wrong course. Just look at all the economy when Geo Bush was prez 5 years ago. Unemployment, price of gas, jobs, economy, ALL were better off then. Obama is continuing to sabotage his own ship, because he has no clue what he is doing.
Atlant Schmidt
8:21 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Dave:
It's tough to run a ship when the partisans for the other side are all scurrying around drilling holes in the planking and then complaining that the Captain is causing the ship to founder. Maybe we should first clear the ship of the Republican Rats?
Panther One
9:56 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
You can’t reset a country to default, but you can change policy.
You either Improve Expand, Grow, or Die.
Panther One
9:59 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Here are the facts. Obama inherited the helm, of a country in crisis. Def com 1,
Yet made the correct decisions to bring back (stabilize) not completely solve
The massive crises, the US economy was in flat-lining credit markets enormous
Job losses and homesforclosers uncertainty was the new fear word,
Dripping down from every ones lips, Obama sought first to assure the nation
That we weren’t going over a cliff, that we have a crises and it could be and would be addressed, his work during his first term has proven to be consistent growth from the bottom up secure the top and place firm support under those on the fringes making sure the states were able to provide for those effected
He acted with hast to improved our economic structural problems,
but they can not be solved by his office alone cooperation is needed from the private sector and a congress that is not partial to political whims of election season bravado and brings consciences to the house on measures that help to spur economic growth and support job creation.
Panther One
10:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The US Citizens. Play the most important part of the equation,
WE the People,
Have To bury are demons and at some point. We the people have to take responsibility for the partisanship in congress. We send citizens there to speak our language, not this calluses bravado fringing on fear mongering not worthy of the office.
Instead of the Statesmanship that’s sorely needed to reconcile differences
It’s obvious that its tone needs to be cleaned up a bit, partisan swagger,
Fills the room like teenagers on the basket ball court challenging every move
As a foul, we the people show the same nasty behavior everyday in communities
Through-out the country this loathsome me! me! Personalities the same unsocial behavior you experience on the hiways and streets of our cities is a mirror reflection of those we send to represent us in the house of congress.
Proud Conservative
10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Racism has nothing to do with disliking Obama. He and his policies would be just as dangerous if he were white, green, blue or orange. He's a socialist, a liar and the greatest destructive threat this country has ever faced. It has nothing to do with his race. It's the man and what he stands for, period.
c
11:45 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Hmmmm socialist? Liar? Geezzz what planet are you from Proud?
Watts
1:01 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
"He's a socialist, a liar and the greatest destructive threat this country has ever faced."
Love it! You just keep going on with talk like this so that all readers can see just how limited your intelectual scope really is.
Proud Conservative
5:10 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
C'mon folks. The list of Obama lies is long, obvious and well documented. I'm really not sure what the motive is behind anyone who chooses to deny that. But I do know that there's no sense in trying to have an intelligent political conversation with them. Obama's efforts, policies and programs have nearly all been socialist and anti-capitalist in nature. Again, there's no sense in trying to discuss political issues with those who choose to deny reality and promote Obama as dedicated to the betterment of this country.
CE SWEETON
8:29 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Proud Conservative: so the President wants to look out for the little guy, care for our nation's children, and hold the Rich accountable - and you have the nerve to question if he's a Christian??? Where are "your" Christian values when all you preach is "me"!!!
Diana B
10:10 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Oh please..........I can probably guarantee after your welcome; hell will freeze over before any President comes back to yoour hick town.....Let me guess, the mayor is a republican..
c
11:45 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Ditto!
Kyle
10:29 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Whats the point; it just gets piled on our Kids anyway ????
JIMMY RIVERA
10:49 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
He should have to pay no more free ride they all need to pay there own way.
c
11:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Jimmy, what other sitting President paid a city or town for their visit??? Give me a break!!!
CE SWEETON
8:25 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
The President does pay "his" own way - the town of Portsmouth earned significant Dollars from both the Media and out-of-towners that stayed in Hotels, ate at Resturants, and purchased Local Goods & Services all there to see the President.
Darleene Stewart
11:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
what a dumb mayor,has all the vips,paid up or just our president you racist people want to pay up. fired this want be mayor.
kidcat24
11:56 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Let's see let me look up the money this mayor received from the Stimulus Bill
kidcat24
12:00 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Oh will you look at that $15,274,111 of Stimulus money to Portsmouth.
kidcat24
12:00 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
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Linda
12:02 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Indeed the president's administration should pay all the bills when he comes to town. Most cities are hurting financially, and just because the king wants to visit doesn't mean his subjects should have to suffer for it.
CE SWEETON
8:21 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Linda, anytime the President (any President) visits there are many out-of-towners that come just to see him. Both Media and Onlookers stay in Hotels, Eat at Resturants, and Purchase Goods and Services - does the Mayor recognize this windfall???
kidcat24
12:12 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I wonder what the Mayor did with $15,274,111 of Stimulus money.
Sensible Molly
12:12 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
While I am sure there are cost associated with a visiting President, does it really cost $30k for a visit to a museum? I would imagine the President has secret service to protect him - so tell me what in God's name cost that much? Why is no one questioning the bill? Just sayin...
Proud Conservative
5:15 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Take a look at Portsmouth's or any area town's detailed budget and you'll understand where these costs come from. $30K is not unreasonable.
Sensible Molly
3:51 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Detailed budget? Let's see, they fly in on air force one...they have their own bodyguards - short of some traffic cops needed for the museum visit - free entrance for the president and his staff into the museum (what's a ticket cost) - sorry - still coming up with huh? 30k is the amount that the community I live in assigns to covering snow removal during the entire winter...of course being a proud conservative - I guess 30k would seem reasonable to you...just sayin...
gordon clay
12:16 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Most communities would love a visit from the President. And, in most cases, they receive more positive PR for attractions like Portsmouth's Strawbery Banke Museum than they would get from a life-time of visitors to the Museum and the town. But Mayor
Eric Spear wants even more publicity with a cheap stunt that, in my case, only wants me not to EVER visit such a greedy town. He wants me to pay his cities expenses for him so I have no incentive to visit his town and support his merchants directly. I will already have spent my budget in Federal taxes that he wants for his coffers. His town probably made much more than $30,000 in increased business by the press and tourists on that visit alone. Where is the Taxed Enough Already Party when you need them to tell the Major to hold a bake sale or something to make up the difference?
Proud Conservative
5:19 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Payment for the Obama campaign visit would come from campaign funds, not from your taxes or anyone elses. Unless you donate to a campaign, you are not paying for any of its expenses. However, official presidential trips, visits, vacations, etc. a ARE paid for with your tax money. You need to rethink your argument.
CE SWEETON
8:17 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
To Proud Conservative: while the President's Travel Cost during Campaigning are paid by his Campaign Funds - the Town's Cost for additional Security during the Visit do come from the Town's Budget, which is funded by the collection of local Tax Dollars.
I agree w/ Gordon Clay - the Town was more than likely made whole from all the Sales Taxes generated from out-of-towners who came to Portsmouth just to see the President.
Proud Conservative
5:34 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
The city of Portsmouth and the taxpayers in the city did not gain one cent from Obama's visit.
Atlant Schmidt
8:23 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Proud:
> The city of Portsmouth and the taxpayers in the city did not gain
> one cent from Obama's visit.
No one came to the city and bought one cup of coffee because of President Obama's visit?
Surely you jest!
Sal
5:59 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Only Country Pumpkin Hick Republicans can be dumb enough to think that they can bill the President or anyone else for visiting their town. Their own ignorance has made the Mayor and Town Council the laughing stock of our nation. It is dummies like these guys that tarnish the Republican Party.There are a host of reasons why this is ILLEGAL in the eyes of the Law.
Sensible Molly
3:53 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Amen Sal! I couldn't have said it better...just sayin...
Sal
6:00 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
1) It is a Violation of the US Constitution. Since 'We the People; all have the Constitutional Right to "Free Travel between States" clause that the forefathers of the State of NH signed when they took part in the creation of the US Constitution.
2) NO one can be billed AFTER -the-Fact for any type of service___Unless there was a signed in Advance Agreement by both parties specifically outlining and itemizing exactly what all of the costs would be.
Proud Conservative
5:31 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
What planet are you from? Next time you have some work done on your furnace, tell them to forget billing you because there was no advance written agreement. Or try pulling that after you have your oil tank filled or your septic tank pumped or after you finish a meal in a restaurant. We'll read about you on the front page. You're pretty much detached from reality.
Sal
6:00 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
But what can you expect__after all they are Republicans, so automatically we know they have diminished mental capacity___and do not recognize that___
3) We the People have a US Constitutional "Right to Assemble" anywhere we want to Assemble and you cannot bill people for exercising their Right to Assemble and Right to Free Travel between States___anymore than you can bill people for exercising their Right to Vote. It is pitifully sad just how ignorant some people are.
If the town did not want the added costs____all they had to do was not provide any manhours towards the event. No one forced the town to spend money__it was entirely their choice____since all they had to do is say___We are sorry but We will NOT have any special police or fire dept. resources available to you during your visit. I cannot wait to see how much money this Mayor and Town Council is not going to have to spend millions of dollars on lawyers fees in filing a law suit to get the Federal Courts to agree that the President of these United States of America is legally obligated to pay the bill for local police protection costs when he travels around the USA.
Proud Conservative
5:26 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
WOW! What a great display of ignorance. Why don't you try exercising your "right to assemble anywhere" in Market Square and see how far you get with that.
joe
7:53 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Oh leave Barry alone he's there for you he's the best, he's there for you. Trust him,Trust him! one more time trust him!
CE SWEETON
8:08 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Is the Mayor willing to send to the Federal Gov the Sales Tax for all Dollars spent in his Community during President Obama's Visit? What about compensation for Advertsing the Museum, which I had never heard of until this, how much increased foot traffic did the President's visit generate???
kidcat24
8:18 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
So what did the mayor do with the $15,274,111 in stimulus money?
Watts
1:53 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012
The Mayor of Chesterfield?
Terry Munroe
8:49 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20120426who-pays-when-president-travels-campaign.html?nclick_check=1
http://waukee.patch.com/articles/iowa-patch-poll-should-communities-cover-costs-of-campaign-stops
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/city-366237-service-secret.html
Steven
8:55 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
If you don't want to pay for YOUR the president to campain in your town, then do not let him. Simple as that. He has plenty of other places that would be glad to have him. This is like saying, "You used my toilet, so I want reimbursement for the water you used to flush it" You people are self centered A-holes
Proud Conservative
5:21 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
He was in Portsmouth as a candidate for office, not on an official presidential visit. And the candidates' campaigns are responsible for their campaign expenses. That shouldn't be too hard for you to understand, but apparently it is.
myangel82
9:11 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Good Luck you will never get the money with I think it totally wrong both campaigns should have payed for their own protection..but no counties got the money such a shame because Police budgets have been cut so bad. what goes around comes around.
Sherry
9:21 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
All of you that think we should raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 or more, you only say it because it's not you.
The Red Skull
9:48 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Why can't the mayor sell lemonade? and stop crying, the election is over .....