"bayonets and horses comment was great"
Along with the comments about aircraft carriers and submarines, the president came off as condescending and a bully. He was channeling his inner Joe Biden....

the king of one liners did what he does best ...we should be able to catch his act all next week on the comedy channel with john stewart

Last night, Robme proved he is incompetent.

Please review his comment about how Syria is Iran's only path to the sea. Then see a map.

Atlant, sort of like 57 states

Mr. Atlant

In Ohio, Biden Talks About All the Ads Being Run 'Here in Iowa'

I bet Biden can name all 57 states

Pretend? This is a poll that indicates how people saw the debate.... Other than a personal opinion, what have you got?

Romney's case of Romnesia was in full force last night as he once again completely reinvented himself and his policies.

Tell me: when you vote for Romney, which of the many Romney personalities are you hoping to elect? Which one do you suppose you'll get?

First, Romney ignored the active and ongoing war, even failing to mention in it his acceptance speech at his own convention. Second, Romney attacked Obama's war policy. And third, Romney embraced Obama's war policy, without giving even the slightest rationale for the reversals.

By the way, Newsmax.com? LOL.

I disagree. Republicans have always been harder on their own where Democrats will back the person with the D next to their name regardless.
Look at MA. 3 speakers of the house in a row convicted and they still support Democrats without question. In MA they've even elected Democrats AFTER they were convicted. Marion Berry comes to mind too, wasn't he the one doing crack while in office? Republicans in most cases drum people who screw up right out of office.

"95 percent of Democrats thought Obama would be declared the winner BY THE MEDIA; only 60 percent of Republicans thought Romney would."

Right. Most Republicans believe that the mainstream media is slanted liberal.

BTW, from that same poll, no movement in how people will vote.
http://pollingreport.com/wh12.htm

Silly. The Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and Santa were left off both platforms, as well. Shame!

tammy, do you know what the Easter Bunny , Tooth Fairy ,Santa and obama have in common ?..................their all fake

Wow, delusional AND vitriolic. Way to swing the votes your way!

SO compelling....

Losing 3000 on 9/11 due to an inept Bush administration somehow doesn't make your post's argument stand. Let's remember, the fools who worked Bush's puppet strings are the same fools who are now working Romney's. Notice how Romney had no clue where Iran and Syria - and those crafty little seas that border them both - were located? Romney's disregard for foreign policy and his overseas campaign tour that only succeeded in offending our allies shows us that he's not ready for CIC, and is counting on the same war criminals Bush used to guide his policies.

Get out of your bubble.

By the way, Romney speaks of killing the bad guys but never mentions the troops he'd send to do it. He doesn't mention the troops or the vets. There's a reason for that -- they're part of the 47% he disregards.

Oi.

is that your IQ ?

More rightwing lunacy. Hopefully the tea party will get the spanking it deserves on Nov. 6.

Citing Clownhall.com is about as fanatical as it gets. You, Romney and the Republican Party jumped the shark on this one and yet you STILL insist on whacking that poor dead horse. Even Romney dumped that stupidity when he delivered that "knock out punch......to himself" last week. He looked and sounded like a complete sap.

By the way, Clownhall.com spends it's days selling rightwing screeds to its sadly misinformed minions, all written by known hacks and columnists who do nothing all day but search for diatribes they can cash in on. Darryl Issa has been an extremely lucrative resource with his failed witch hunts - one co-ed columnist made several million dollars promoting and selling a rant in hardcover about Fast and Furious.....which sank like a stone after 18 months of taxpayer dollars being spent on trying to tie that one to Obama and Holder. FAIL. Now they seek to make millions more off of people who apparently like spending their dollars on fluff in a newly hatched witch hunt on Benghasi. Apparently, the folks at clownhall know their followers and can make a quick buck before they are spanked on that one, too.

What is sad about your post, JIM, is that we live in a country where one Party is quick to attack this President BEFORE they even know the full story, which in your own words just a few years ago shows WEAKNESS, not strength to the world community from your 'leadership' in the GOP. It's offensive and disgusting, but we know you have no shame.

you poor deranged parrobot, cant think for yourself, you just go through life mumbling the obama one liners and ofa talking points , all townhall did was publish he emails that the lying obama Out House sent , but your single celled brain cant grasp that , what we see is another commiecrat brown shirt standing tall for the fuhrer, you sound like an obama youth just barely starting puberty and not quite old enough to vote and in love with the first RED president

misleading ? he wasent misleading, he was lying.

It's tiresome, really, to keep fact-checking the liars of your Party, salemvoter, because you don't care....about facts or the fact that your candidates are grossly inept for the job of President and Vice President.

But here goes anyway:

1. The "whopper" about President Obama's 'apology tour' has been debunked over and over and over again. Politifact rated it a 5-alarm "pants on fire" lie. And yet, your boy keeps at it because he knows his base is ignorant and couldn't care less about silly things like facts.

2. Romney showed his ignorance on foreign affairs by saying that the United States should be encouraging Syrian opposition forces that seem moderate. He said he would work with Saudi Arabia and Qatar on this, but those governments are funneling arms to the jihadist groups that he says he hates. Maybe not a lie, per se, but showing his inept streak.

3. Romney tried to claim that the president had “wasted” the last four years in trying to stop Iran’s nuclear weapons program. But Obama's right when he said, “We’ve been able to mobilize the world. When I came into office, the world was divided. Iran was resurgent. Iran is at its weakest point, economically, strategically, militarily.” Guess who divided the world. Yeah, it was a republican.

The essence of the debate was that Romney basically endorsed Obama and his policies as the best moving forward. What's to quibble about? Your guy realized he's toast and conceded to the fact we need FOUR MORE YEARS.

Hazel, claiming Romney comments about the apology tour as the biggest "whopper" and that it has been "debunked" is straight out of the Democrat talking points handbook. Just because the left say it was not an apology tour doesn't make it true. And, conversly, just because the right says it was an apology tour doesn't make it right. However, the fact is most of us saw the President of the US bow to his waist when meeting the king of Saudi Arabia, not a bow from the chest but a deep bow from the waist. A bow of submission asking for forgiveness? Perhaps, perhaps not, but it can appear that way. And as Governor Romney correctly pointed out, the President skipped visiting Isreal, and he has not visited Isreal during his whole term in office.

Sexondly, the President clearly lied about the Status of Forces agreement with Iraq. The administration was actively negotiating with Iraq for US troops to remain beyond the withdrawal timeline that the Bush administration negotiated. For the President to now go around and pat himself on the back for ending the war in Iraq is deceitful.

Oi, salemvoter...you're giving me a headache. Stubborn denial of facts may be a pre-requisite for Republican serfs, but you must face the reality that FactCheck.org and Politifact.com are certainly NOT Democratic organs. In fact, Politifact.com tends to quibble on the side on Republicans with "half-trues" that are based on bizarro and irrelevant aspects of the situation.....so the takeaway is that for Politifact to determine PANTS ON FIRE for Romney, you've got to know they mean HE LIED WITHOUT ANY CHANCE OF WIGGLE ROOM.

I understand that you have to keep repeating your nonsense until your brain sees it as truth, and you DO do us a good service here by showing reasonable people just how unhinged one has to be to double-down embracing Republican lies. No offense.

Well, hold on there hoss. The economy is doing pretty well considering. Housing sales are up, the unemployment is down below the bar YOU GUYS set at 8%, and the stock market is double what it was when the Shrub left office in disgrace.

What's more is that Obama did this even with a hostile, petty Republican majority in Congress bent on undermining any progress for the country for partisan gain. Yes, that's right, JIM -- the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS killed the Jobs Bill that experts overwhelmingly endorsed last year saying it would add up to 2 million jobs to the economy. That's how your Republican Congress focused on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS....they focused on killing jobs.

And the minority Republicans in the Senate spent THEIR time filibustering every piece of meaningful legislation created to move the economy forward. They killed the Military Veterans Jobs Bill! Fourteen percent of Americans think that the deficit is more important that returning our vets to work --- guess who that 14% might be: The Republicans in the Senate, apparently.

Do NOT give us your small-minded drivel on the state of the economy without including what your Party has done to keep it smothered for the last four years. That, on top of what your Party did to get us there in first place. I've personally had enough of your mindless rot.

JIM:

We get it. You're not voting for him.

But millions will have already this year and more millions will be. (Well, at least if Republicans in many places allow them to vote; the Republican anti-voter machine is in full swing in many areas.)

And when the votes are counted, we'll see whether fear, lies, and racism carry the day or whether optimism, hope, and the truth emerge as the winners.

I know which side I'm rooting for!

Atlant, you bring up voting. Rep Jim Moran (D) of Virginia, his campaign manager who is also his son,, has just been taped advising someone how to steal 100 votes by forging a utility bill to show residency. Bet you won't see this reported on MSNBC tonight.

As for racism, yes, it exists in America and that is sad. However, it exist on both sides. To say someone is not voting for President Obama because he is black is just as racist as saying someone is voting for him becuase he is black.

And fear, its the Democrat pushing fear.

Yes, according to FoxNews. Always a *good* source for fiction.

According to whom? Fixed News, again? Yawn.

Come back with some real info regarding the fact that despite Republican efforts, the unemployment is down below their own bar set at 8%, the stock market doubled since Bush/GOP ineptitude and housing market is growing. So sorry for your disappointment and denial of the good news, but it does seem that you guys are more about embracing and relishing any smidge of bad news you can squeeze out of anything in order to get the same dopes who created this mess back into office.

Percival, the stock market has risen for the same reason oil prices have risen. They are traded in diluted dollars, thanks to QE1, QE2 and now QE3.

Charles Kadlec also wants to take us back to the gold standard. LOL.

Please. Commentary from known Republican hacks hardly makes a relevant point outside of your bubble-encased crowd of know-nothings.

Okay, now we know we're dealing with remedial first graders instead of thinking Republicans. Sorry, I thought there might be a few of the adult, thinking Republicans left. My mistake.

Hey Patch!

What *EXACTLY* are the language and deportment standards around here?

Are you *PROUD* of the level "achieved" by many of your commentators?

percy thats funny, but you seam to have overlooked that it was you lord saint obama who made big bird a left wing squawking point after President Romney said he would cut tax payer funding to the left wing puppeteers on sesame street , big bird and the left wing gang on sesame st got over a million tax payer dollars last year that created 1 job ...but in obamas la la land of obamanomics thats considered a success

atlint your making an arse of your self again, and again and again and again and again

and Hardy its not nice to pick on idy Biddy atwints puppet pals

Unfortunately, salemvoter, it is quite likely that 8% unemployment *IS* the "new normal" here in America.

Quite a while ago, America's capitalists decided that the American worker had become too expensive as compared to workers in China (and other parts of Southeast Asia), India, Mexico, and other places. As a result, the capitalists moved much of America's manufacturing off-shore. As a result, laborers who previously worked in America's factories were no longer needed. Increasing levels of automation operated in a similar fashion. "Steel-collar workers" require no salary, no health benefits, and very little time off. Once again, laborers were displaced.

And for all the horsepucky about America converting to a "service economy", we just don't need that many people flipping burgers or greeting people as they enter their local Walmart stuffed with Chinese goods.

So structural unemployment is now built-in to the American economy.

We have millions of workers with no hope of employment in America's restructured economy. This suits the 0.1% just fine but it's lousy for the rest of us.

Atlant, you are partially correct. Have you ever been to the manufacturing plants in China, Southeast Asia, or Mexico? Most are very automated. Yes, there is still hands on assembly but automation is amazing. I travel frequently to Asia on business and have been in the plants. There is more automation there then in the plants I visit in the US.
One problem is the US is basically built out. Everyone has 2 or 3 TV's, cell phones, computers, most in the US has a washer and dryer, a refrigerator, one or two automobiles, burger joints in every city. In Asia, the middle class is just beginning to grow and acquire these comforts we take for granted. The population in China and India dwarf that of the US. The growing middle class in China and India are on the way to become the largest purchasing group in the world for computers, TV's, cell phones, washers,dryers, autos, microwave ovens, etc... As such, the factories look ahead and locate there because that is where the majority of there consumers will be.
In China, there is a mass migration from the farms, where they work 12-15 hours a day tending to a crop with no guarentee of making any money on the crop, to the cities to work in factories where they are guarenteed a weekly paycheck and dorm to live in, with heat and hot water. Much like the industrial revolution in the US in the 1800's.

nothing to pause about, powell made it perfectly clear in 08 it was all about the color of obamas skin and has nothing to do with party or country, read between the lines obama was a do nothing senator with an intelligent teleprompter and a few catchy lines in 08 when powell endorsed him ...today in 2012 obamas policies are all failures, bankrupting our country and you want us to pause and reflect on why this black man supports the other black man.

JIM, not that your comment deserves consideration, but if Powell was all about color of skin he would NOT be a Republican.
You've helped Liberals prove once again how half the country can still be voting for Romney after all the moronic missteps - idiocy has a Party and will stick with Republicans regardless of how breathtakingly AWFUL they are to your own best interests.

percy the parrobot, you can keep spewing your made up crap but those of us who know our history, know it was the republicans who fought for the black mans equality and rights not you commiecrats, when the republicans freed the black man from the southern plantations the commiecrats figured a new way to make them slaves again and put them on the govt plantations.

oh and atlint dont bother with your dixiecrats became republicans crap it dont work

JIM, what color is the sky in your world?

Best of luck, man. I mean. You'll need it.

Welcome to the world of Republicans, salem. They are the ones, after all, who got us here - and they are the ones who refuse to take steps to get us out of their mess.

Your guys voted against putting up to 2 million people back to work - they killed the Jobs Bill. They also voted against our returning vets by killing a Military Veterans Jobs Bill. The day you spend some of gakking explaining how you support THAT is the day I might actually think you have some kajones rather than cow bells.

By the way, being anti-union is the Republican M.O. for squashing workers. Not surprising that you'd cite a perfect example of big corporate overstep against workers in this country. I'm betting you'd support Bain's moving business to China, too....and the tax cuts Romney supports (and benefits from) for doing so.

Wasn't the stimulus a jobs bill, with the President saying it was needed to get unemploymentt below 8%. The CBO issued a report saying each job created due to the stimulus bill cost $278,000. After the results of the Stimulus bill what would make you think the Presidents Job Bill to give 2 million more people jobs would work?
And, in oct 2011, harry Reid, a Democrat and majority leader of the Senate, blocked a vote on President Obama job bill.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/oct/4/senate-democrats-forced-block-obama-jobs-bill/
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/185455-reid-blocks-mcconnells-call-for-an-immediate-vote-on-obamas-jobs-plan

As for the Veterans job bill. We should do everything we can to assist veterans seeking work. Introduction of it 8 weeks before the election is suspicious

Obama never promised the stimulus would keep the jobless rate under 8% and it's been proven a false claim over and over again as Romney and his cohorts continue to stump on it. The projection of the stimulus working to keep that rate under 8% was made in January 2009, and those projections relied on prevailing economic models that quickly proved to have underestimated the depths of the recession at that time.

Bottom line, you're wrong, and citing rightwing Moonie Times to prove your false claim doesn't help.

As for the Veterans your side claims to care SOOOOO much about and support Romney who makes NOOOOOO mention of vets in any of his speeches/debates, and most assuredly must know most vets are included in that 47% he dismisses -- there should be NO time limits as to when that vote goes through. The fact that your Senate partisans couldn't see their way clear to supporting it, however, DOES in fact look suspiciously like an effort to keep good things from happening on Obama's watch. How cynical and awful of the Rethuglican Party.

Oops! Did I say "Rethuglicans" instead of Republicans? Freudian slip.

Percival, you are correct. president Obama himself did not say that unemploymnet would be under 8% if the Stimulus passed BUT, his Economic advisors who drafted the plan DID and they show a graph on page 5 of the report of the impact with and without the Stimulus. In their graph unemploymnet peaks at 8% if the Stimulus is passed. This is the exact plan the President sold to Congress and the American people. Will he take responsibility for anything?

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/The_Job_Impact_of_the_American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Plan.pdf

Once again, you Dems cover for this guy by saying, he himself didn't say it.

Salem, you've missed the point again - the numbers that guideline was based on was bogus from the start. Bush's economic meltdown was WORSE than first thought, changing the stats all the way down the line.

Bottom line, a stimulus would never have been needed in an Al Gore economy, you can count on that. Bush screwed things up, with Paul Ryan's blessings, so that we are now having THIS conversation about the fallout of really bad Republican policies. That alone should make everyone shudder at the thought of Bush 2.0 Romney.

Well, I see you are one of the only remaining Republicans - aside from halfwit Hannity - that takes Trump's hair piece seriously.

And really, JIM - it's interesting that you'd rant 'n rave about the Donald's ridiculous claim while the reality and truth department shows us that Romney took a nice loooong vacation in Paris while his contemporaries fought the war in Vietnam that Romney supported and protested FOR. Yeah - that's right. Romney held a sign protesting FOR the war he couldn't be bothered to fight. Oh, but he did *serve* his church - always need more support for magic undies, don't ya know.

Speaking of the Donald, this was on the Leno Show last night:

What’s real estate mogul Donald Trump got against President Barack Obama? The president says it’s an old grudge that goes back — way, way back — to their childhood days in Kenya.

‘‘We had constant run-ins on the soccer fields,’’ Obama told ‘‘Tonight Show’’ host Jay Leno during a tongue-in-cheek knock on Trump Wednesday night. ‘‘He wasn’t very good and resented it. When we finally moved to America, I thought it would be over.’’

what ever percy, but we will never see the commie coward in command take Trumps money, if it was me , I would want to take that loud mouths check so fast it would be donated before the ink dried, but the un American fraud obama cant do it because it would prove what we have know all along.

percy what are you babbling about ''the Donalds ridiculous claim '' he didn't claim anything, he said he would donate 5 million dollars to any charity obama named, if obama would unseal his school records and passport records , there is no ''claim'' here ,its a challenge ,its a chance for obama to ''redistribute'' the evil rich guys money, if obama wasent a fraud he would shut Trump up once and for all....but he wont , because he is a FRAUD

I'll save readers the pain of slogging through an hour and a half of poorly written and executed scaremongering. This film is meant to keep the far right in extremist, sheep mode while everyone else will basically ignore it because it's extremist sheep propaganda. Fox News might even backpedal from such sop, but you've got to figure Glenn Beck bawled croc tears throughout.

I worry for you, JIM.

atlint , hazel nuts/percival , Lil joe da hack, mike healey ,dave loser , for the sheeple , jan , tammy ,watts you are the useful idiots that this film describes.

JIM:

That's right, we're all wrong and you're right.

Well, except for the childish way you spell our names in the hopes of getting us angry. But we're liberals; we sympathize with those persons who are "limited" and try to help them rather than constantly attacking them.

Jim-I am watching it and have a whole page of notes just on the first 13 minutes.

What first stands out is the framing of the "left" and the issues themselves as being a choice between just two.

Free enterprise or socialist

Left is Ignorant or evil

Left will use Violence or inside subversion

Cohabitation or marriage

Business or environment

Religion or homosexuality

Judeo Christian or State

People, in general, do not view the world in such black and white terms.

Also, the term "it takes a village" has to do with community not the government.

I think framing multiple groups of people in the US as an enemy to be dealt with is dangerous and unamerican in itself.

I can only imagine what is in the rest of the movie...

atlint you poor little tool, its not done to get you angry ..its just my way of saying that I have zero respect for you and your communist manifesto , zero respect for the commie in command that you idolise and worship and zero respect for all you progressive communists stand for

tammy no matter how many notes you take you ''useful idiots '' will never understand or admit you are the tools of the communist party, your to blind and stupid to admit you have been used like a cheap party girl

Jim-If we both consider each other useful idiots of some nefarious agenda, the future is bleak. In order to accept the information in that video, one would have never read a history book or taken a history class. The 20th century and the many needless deaths were caused by wars between authoritarian regimes, not between the left and left as the video tries to frame such conflicts.